Hey, don’t take my word for it. Take his:
Evidently when Dr. Paul practiced medicine, he just roamed the halls and entered operating rooms, uninvited. Just checking things out. So in one room, they were performing a late term abortion using some method that allowed the baby to be born alive. They put the breathing, crying baby in a bucket in the corner and proceeded to ignore it, waiting for it to die. Dr. Paul evidently shrugged and moved on to another operating room, where a large crew of doctors was desperately trying to save a wanted, premature baby.
I don’t really believe he calmly watched hospital staff put a baby in a bucket to die and did nothing. Though if that were true, what kind of man is he? That’s horrible. More so considering that he is claiming to be pro-life not just now, but then too. I assure you, there is no law, no custom, no hospital policy, no peer pressure from other hospital staff, no reasoning or argument that could entice me to walk past a dying baby and do nothing to try to save it. At the very least, I would take it from the bucket, wrap it up and try to comfort it while it died. How could any feeling person do less?
But does anyone believe that’s what really happened? I believe Paul – at best – twisted the truth here. Maybe he conflated some stories that actually happened to him or to others, or else maybe he invented it outright. Either he’s telling the truth and did something genuinely horrible (and isn’t bright enough to realize what he just admitted), or else he’s lying.
Evidently it’s okay to tell even obvious lies, easily easily catchable lies, in politics now. Obama was caught just last week brazenly lying about a teacher. The media collectively shrugged; everyone moved on. The #ows protesters were caught pulling a Pallywood – staging an event for the cameras. The odds that they’ll get away with it are pretty high, even with the efforts of some meddling bloggers.
As for Ron Paul – nothing is going to convince his die-hard supporters that he’s as cynical and dishonest as the rest of his colleagues. But to the rest of us, this campaign spot is a new low.
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In his book on abortion, he mentions this was in 1967, when he was still a resident.
So he was a grown man, well past the age of legal majority, is what you’re saying? Look, if he wants to come out and say, I did a terrible thing by ignoring that dying baby, I could respect that and even admire it the same way that I admire women who have had abortions and later repent. But that’s not what he did here.
What a childish article, you couldn’t have possibly known the circumstances.
Ron Paul is a doctor and 10 times the man ANY of these other candidates are, as a doctor perhaps he knew it couldn’t be saved or perhaps there was something that stopped him from acting.
Do you think this does the public a service? We live in a time when our civil liberties are being taken from us one by one, taxes rise, the dollar falls and he is ONE man is a sea of corrupt politicians who offers a return to sanity.
Who would you have?
Obama? Who calls drone attacks on American citizens and their 16 year old kids – Takes us to war with out asking the people if they support it? Creates an oligarchy called the super-congress who’s authority succeeds our own congress?
Mitt Romney? Who flip-flops and lies, supports bad legislation and votes based on which lobby gave him the most money? He’ll vote you under a bus for a couple dollars.
Rick Perry? Who would FORCE your 12 year old to get an HPV vaccine from a drug company he accepted a $30,000 lobby from? Who would give Illegal immigrants $100,000 tuition while our people cant get student aid?
Herman Cain? Who makes a statement and retracts it every day? Quotes pokemon? Lies to Americans? Who proudly Lacks economic and foreign policy knowledge? Ripped off people fortunes at Aquilla? Sexually harassed several women? Makes a joke out of everything?
Or Ron Paul? Who’s life forever changed the day he witnessed the terrible event that you ridicule him for. If this is his travesty, understand it was in a different era and you couldn’t possibly have known the circumstances. At least he’s not knowingly allowing abortions or sending our young off to undefinable undeclared wars to die or to kill others so rich men can line their pockets.
You need to prioritize.
So you’re not denying he left a baby to die in a bucket without making any effort to care for it or at least comfort it; you just don’t care. As to the rest – Ron Paul is a loon. He gets a few things right on domestic policy, and is a nightmare just as bad as Obama on foreign policy.
danbeaulieu’s answer is typical strawman response- he can not defend Paul in the course of your well stated arguement so repsonds attacking you and other candidates –
Your response on him being an adult was perfect – and it so moved and yet he can not even now admitt he was wrong in not doing anything says volumes about his cold soul. He evidently was more concerned about his future than his oath to save a life.
How can someone profess to wanting to sanve millions when he ignores the opportunity to save one when the Lord presents it to him? If each of us were given the same chance how would we respond? I see little difference in his actions- or lack of than the recent film clips of the child hit by a car in China and so many walking by and ignoring it. Talk is cehap – actions speak louder
Man I began reading the reply above by Dan Beaulieu or whatever and I totally agreed with his defense of Paul about this obviously bogus claim that Paul didnt care about some baby about to die while he was a doctor. I know nothing of this story and Ive never heard about it but I have enough sense to realize the way this person tried to explain it was way more than obviously another bogus claim and it was nice to hear somebody who also was not there bring up the fact that this person mking the bogus claim about Paulwas describing the entire scenario way out of context.. I myself am convinced that Obamas character is way down on the chart of honorability kinda like much of the senate yet I have enough sense to realize there is no way Obama would even do what this person was saying about Paul and Paul is a doctor too.OMG! The writer sounded like some immature 16 year old making a comment. I can relate with Dans feelings of defense for Paul because I see so many bogus comments by people with no wisdom at all and who jump to conclusions. HOWEVER, I kept reading the comment and I will be da__ed if this Dan doesnt turn right around and commit the exact same totally irresponsible act (but 4 or 5 times worse because he does it to 4 or 5 candidates in seconds) that he just got through explaining with uncommon wisdom shown by most mini-bloggers about how the person making there judgement was so lacking of the ability to keep it all in context and therefor their judgement was rediculously outrageous. It just goes to show that even the most generally understanding person even can get caught up in their own admiration for a particular candidate that it causes them to automatically lash out and jump at the opportunity to defend their chioce peson by falsely witnessing about the other(s) being compared to their choice person. I catch myself having this very same tendency as I defend the candidate who has clearly undergone by far the most repeated examples of outrageously bogus down-right false lies by not just stupid mini blogers with their one-liners, but the bib time reporters intentionally taking their facts and disregarding the true context in order to negatively mis lead others about someone;s character merely because they disagree with this persons policy beliefs-something acceptable in our free democracy of course. And that would be Newt Gingrich. His treatment with lies by the leftist media power prior to FOX Cable news existence made Sarah Palins bogus treatment look like a pick-nick on a Sunday. Point is, we all need to try to be honest. When we start making negative claims about people we dont even really know which is commiting false witness or LYING, it really does come off so freaking obvious to the readers anyway so it does no good when mini-bloggers do this is my opinion. Perhaps it does give the liar a short burst of internally good fuzzy feeling as they get to pretend they are being defenders of righteousness for a second when they are only lying in reality. By far, the two most easily candidates who can and will be taken out of context are obviousy Paul and Gingrich. That has so much to do with their intelligence levels and (true thinkers) that BOTH have thats way above the intelligece level of the rest of the fields! Sorry Thats a fact. Another thing, there is not a sorry one in the entire batch, Everyone of them are of fantastic character. Anyone who thinks that Paul or Gingrich are persons of bad character need to sit down and take a moment to try to visualize the existance of their very own blind spot, because I promise you it is there! . I am gonna try check myself too on this!
Robert, you write, “I know nothing of this story and Ive never heard about it,” and then you write, “I see so many bogus comments by people with no wisdom at all and who jump to conclusions.” That’s clearly true in your case, as well. Ron Paul is literally speaking for himself, and you Paulbots don’t have much a defense against the words coming out of his own mouth. As for your suggestion that “there is no way Obama would even do what this person was saying about Paul” are you aware that while Obama was in the Illinois Senate, he voted FOUR TIMES against “born alive” legislation which would have required doctors to provide medical care for babies that survived abortions?
John 7:24
Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.
That’s a great verse, I hope you take it to heart.
Wait, sooo you basically agree with Paul’s views against abortions, correct? Why would he be so pro-life if he isn’t a compassionate human being (as you are suggesting)… it’s not like being pro-life is all-that popular, seeing as how there are over 3,000 abortions in the US every day. And if THIS is the best reason to dislike RP that you can come up with, Paul having witnessed an ‘unwanted’ baby left to die (or AN ABORTION), then I just don’t understand why EVERYONE doesn’t trust this guy. Med students are often required to watch abortions being performed! How else do you think they learn?? You can’t be unfair and just dig up Paul’s past without looking at his fellow candidates as well, and I think it’s safe to say whose is least disturbing when I picture them running my country… Plus, you forget to mention that he went on to deliver over 4,000 happy, healthy, wanted babies.
Certainly I’m pro-life. The point of the post was to point out that Ron Paul is an idiot for making this commercial and admitting that he did a horrible thing (whether it was what he fondly hoped would be a self-serving lie, or whether it actually happened.) He’s evidently not even bright enough to think through the ramifications of what he’s saying. Which is actually right in line with his insane foreign policies and also right in line with the insane conspiracy theorists he hangs out with. I mean, Alex Jones? Seriously? Give me a BREAK. Then there’s the fact that after 30 years in Congress (during which time he oh-so-bravely voted against budgets he knew full well would pass and which he stuffed with the earmarks he preaches against) he has no following, no real leadership credentials, and nothing much to show for himself. Your Dr. Paul is a loon, a hypocrite, and a racist, antisemitic embarrassment to the GOP. It’s not going to happen, but the media would dearly love it if he became the GOP nominee because they would absolutely butcher him simply by finally reporting the truth about him that you Paulbots so desperately want to evade.
Was that clear enough for you?
[Added: Almost forgot - he actually came out in support of Bradley Manning. He called him a hero and a patriot. What a disgrace!!]
Loon? Racist? Hypocrite? Paulbots? You’re quick to generalize and name-call without any ground to stand on. Expand on all the things you are saying if you want any credibility. Do you also think the Constitution is crazy? And do you think the men and women serving our country are crazy for believing in Paul’s “insane” foreign policy? He has more donations from active duty military than all the other 2012 Presidential candidates – COMBINED! http://speakup-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ron-paul-military-donations-q3.jpg I’d LOVE to know who you are voting for…
And about earmarks — He has never voted for the bill that the earmarks are in. N E V E R. What you are confused about is the fact that since that money is going to be spent anyways by the executive when it goes into the “slush” fund, Ron Paul is just trying to get money back for his district that was taxed against his will. He votes against the spending bills, he just wants to make sure that in case it passes his people will get their fair share. Earmarks can be wasteful, but they don’t increase govt. spending. That is because the appropriation bill sets the amount to be spent for so-called discretionary spending. If a congressman doesn’t specifically request money for highways, bridges, etc., then a bureaucracy in the executive branch will do it. If Paul had his way, the money for things like this would have never left Texas to begin with. But once the money is confiscated, Dr. Paul feels that it is imperative to bring as much of it back to Texas residents as possible.
Oh yeah, and I never cared a lick about politics or politicians until Ron Paul came around. He cured my apathy with my own government. Pretty cool.
I’ve been over those things – and so have many, many other people – more times than I care to count. Loon – the way he tapdances around his Trutherism. Just asking questions, wink, wink! Racist and antisemite – starting with his newsletters and working forward. There’s a reason why neo-Nazis and white supremacists support Ron Paul. Hypocrite – on budgeting and many other issues, including supporting the traitor Bradley Manning. This is all well established for everyone except his poll-fixing minions, who contort themselves trying to get around it.
If you want to be associated with Ron Paul, go right ahead and claim him – I’ve certainly got better things to do than try to convince you to change your mind.
Incidentally, I’m really okay with the fact that you don’t think I’m credible. Since I find Ron Paul supporters so incredible myself, I don’t put forth a lot of effort trying to gain their good opinion.
Hello Laura.
First of all I would like to congratulate you for this catch! I had seen this comercial before and never realized how he is pretty much saying he saw a baby die and did nothing about it! Ron Paul messed up that one. (I honestly think he exaggerated it tho bc i dont know of ppl who would just throw a baby in a bucket to let it die.) Anyways you have a good eye.
However I do think that out of all the candidates Ron Paul is the best one. Like his foreign policy. He just wants to come back to america and let the other countries be and do what they want. The world is about freedom. I’m from Mexico and everyone in the world pretty much dislikes the us because they are everywhere and invade and try to tell ppl what to do.
Great Post,
James